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Poster: | rayd8 | Date: | Aug 7, 2007 6:09pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Unbelievable download counts |
I upload a lot of Radiators shows, but insignificant shows (ones that you would never expect that much interest) are getting hits of many ->thousands<- per week.
Is someone messing with the download count (like downloading the info file... over & over, via a BOT) just to boost the band's exposure, or is there another logical explanation for this happening?
Curious minds (like mine) need to know.
-TIA
This post was modified by rayd8 on 2007-08-08 01:05:53
This post was modified by rayd8 on 2007-08-08 01:09:33
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Poster: | xtifr | Date: | Aug 8, 2007 11:51am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts |
It is, of course, possible that something more is going on. The download counters are easy to mess with by anyone who wants to run a bot of some sort. Or by other, less sinister means--the current runaway top download on the Archive, for example, gets its position from the fact that that show is the default in a new, free, web-based music player. But, when I look at the numbers for the top downloads for the Rads, they're in line with what I would expect from their positions a few months back, so, whatever it is that's going on isn't having a major effect.
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Aug 9, 2007 2:46pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts |
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Poster: | xtifr | Date: | Aug 10, 2007 4:49pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
http://www.archive.org/details/rad1995-01-27.flac
Has a one-star review by the uploader, which states that "there are some nasty problems. the first disc is unlistenable. Please don't download". Yet somehow, this show has suddenly jumped up to be the sixth most downloaded Radiators show on the Archive. I think there's more going on here than just some cleanup. In fact, I'm inclined to suspect that the cleanup process had some undetected but fairly major errors. Don't know if anything can be done at this point, but I thought it would be worth bringing up in any case.
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Poster: | rayd8 | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 4:34am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
Of A Revolution...
They may be getting popular, but
http://www.archive.org/details/oar2006-01-14.mix.flac16
145,623 downloads last week!
562,912 downloads last month!!
1,441,127 downloads TOTAL!!!!!!!!! (most downloaded show on the LMA)
Wouldn't there be a HUGE spike in bandwidth usage if this was for real?
And I'm sorry, but OAR is not the Grateful Dead and the Dead's biggest total count is only 356,620 downloads.
Something is wrong here....
This post was modified by rayd8 on 2007-08-11 11:34:43
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 7:41am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 7:42am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
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Poster: | rayd8 | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 10:47am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
I thought it was a ->download<- counter.
No wonder.
So, just for clarification, if I play one song on the flash player it counts as a download?
To me that defeats the whole purpose (as I understood it to be) of the download counter. If it is, then I will just ignore those numbers in the future because it isn't a real representation of the number of people who have actually downloaded a copy for themselves.
BTW, my question (statement) had nothing to do with Jon's stating that the 1st disc was corrupted, my inquiry was solely having to do with what I considered a "download count" that seemed totally out of whack.
Again, if just streaming a show counts as a download; then yes, the numbers could be possible just because folks may have wanted to see how bad it really was (or wasn't)....
This post was modified by rayd8 on 2007-08-11 17:47:39
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Poster: | NoiseCollector | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 11:59am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-01.sbd.clugston.5465.sbeok.shnf
See if this changes when you stream.
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Poster: | rayd8 | Date: | Aug 11, 2007 4:03pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
This post was modified by rayd8 on 2007-08-11 23:03:20
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Poster: | brewster | Date: | Aug 19, 2007 6:19am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Unbelievable download counts: new info! |
the problem with the Of A Revolution show is that a song in it is in a little flash widget that seems to be used by myspace users.
I have tried a few different systems with the download counts, and all are imperfect.
-brewster